no solution

Thank u for your blog
First something about me . I am palestinian from gaza strip >there is about 30% of gaza people if not more to leave gaza , but no chance for us .our chance is still fighting and killing each other , our problem has no solution . because the mistake made by israel and USA and world , did you know I am arabian . even I am muslim , but no arabian country accept any palestinian from Gaza as aslyum or work , even many country close the door in our face , i was go To UNRWA ,( i am carry there ID as palestinian Refugee) They told me this not our work to give you aslum country .even i go to UNHCR they not help me , i am not the first and not the last , the hope is close , even many country help refugee from any country like Canada ,sewed ..........but when talking I am Palestinian from gaza , they say sorry we can not help .also no work in gaza .Isarel prevent about 100,000 from gaza to work in there land during AL intifada , so close border to find any hope out gaza , so many family obligate to send there son to fight , why . they need money to feed there children , to teach them .to survive , so how they get this money if they no work ,other...,so they join resistance , who is support resistance , Iran send huge money for resistance ,(actually they not help us and we know this but our need to money is necessary )resistance offer big money for us to join them and fight , every one get one 1000 dollars per month , this enough to feed our family .money my neighbor send 3 of his sons to join resistance and fight Israel and one of his son is kill ,so he not stop and send and other two sons to fight , he has 16 sons , he will not cry if one or to or even 5 kill , now most family in resistance fight to solve , really who actually support resistance and believe in fight in Gaza people about 10 to 30 % . other just civilian obligate to fight . this what i see by my eye . even me i was carry weapon when my age is 16 to fight i was need money to bought ticket to travel and some money to my travel .no one help me to get this money .now 5 years out in Gaza , and i decide to return because live and die in Gaza is best than live in Arab .now i am in Arabian country 2 years without visa , and they refuse to renew my visa , after i was run from Gaza because the war there .i try to get chance in any country and live in peace , but no chance not only me , i was left with group of Palestinian and now we will return .this worst fact . may be i return to fight because need money to survive just like .other
i send to many organization to help me and my friends and many embassy sorry peace door is closed in our face , just war peace open in our door . in this country i am here they put me in jail because i no have visa , did you know who is exit me out jail is Hamas "one of Palestinian resistance or terror " they obligate me to make deal with them return to Gaza and fight with them ,i agree die is best than Arabian jail , when i ask my embassy to help me , they run way . this is Fact.so isreal increase war by close the border and arab and world when prevent to accept us .

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Permalink Reply by Paul RETI on February 2, 2009 at 12:17pm

Thanks for joining Ahmad and for so clearly giving just one person's testimony.

Many problems and predicaments like yours had, have, and will have humane solutions. The problem is finding ways ways of really implementing such solutions in ways that seriously improve the lives of ordinary people now and long-term.

I understand that for now, only for now would really be enough.

With empathy and sympathy but sadly without a magic wand...
== Paul R

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Permalink Reply by Neri Bar-On on February 2, 2009 at 12:23pm

Dear Ahmed

It is complex and hard situation where you and your people are in the middle of century of conflict. there are so many mistakes that been done and it is clear that the Gazans and the Palestinians are paying the price for Israel and Palestinian extremists.

as personally I do not have a way to support you I recognize the need of change in the relationship and the obligation we have in Israel, in the world and in the Arab world to find ways to solve the Israeli-Palestinians conflict and enable Palestinians to build Palestine with all the necessary land and governance.

There are many Palestinians here and maybe some of them have knowledge and experience to suggest for you a better ways to earn money. I am sure that in Hamas there are other social focused activities that are not military.

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Permalink Reply by Basil Keilani on February 2, 2009 at 3:10pm

I can understand that people in Gaza are under a blockade, there is economic desperation, the crossings are closed, no interaction with the outside, so many join Hamas, and Israel if gets into more conflicts would only encourage more desperate young men to join Hamas. It's not really a win-win situation for anyone.

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Permalink Reply by Basil Keilani on February 2, 2009 at 7:00pm

Dror, could you also argue that Israel's misery over the past decades has been partially induced? Many people would say that Israel's lack of security is partially due to the decisions of its politicians. Of course, you would probably never concede anything. I have never seen you concede on any point on here.

You stated that in 2000 all the borders were open. You do mean the occupied borders because the Palestinians have had no control over their borders or economy. You talk about the peace process but settlements were not frozen and kept on being built which was a violation of the spirit of Oslo, though not the letter of Oslo. When people are occupied, they are going to resist, pure-and-simple. Are you going to tell me you would just simply take being occupied?

As far as the second Intifadah, you forget that it occured after Ariel Sharon went to the holy sites on purpose with tons of soldiers and in a purely provocative manner. He used religion to try to get elected, and he knew what he would do during a psychologically sensitive time would just be the trigger to set off a major right. The right often thrives on violence from the Palestinian side, and it helps them expand the settlements. It's a very, very old tactic i.e. get the Arabs to respond violently and then blame it on them. Moshe Dayan in a letter admitted that was done to Syria in 1967, so it is not new, and a former Israeli general admitted to such things.

Obviously, Hamas screwed things up when Peres was prime minister, and there would have been a possibility for two states near each other at that time, and I do blame Hamas for that. As you can see, I can see where
the Palestinian side went wrong, but you think that the side you are defending are better than God to the point where they can't do wrong, so to speak. Should Palestinians take all the Israeli abuse with a stiff upper lip?

What is Israel offering in terms of a final settlement that would be reasonable to both sides to end the conflict? I still haven't really heard anything substantive yet. Opening the borders as Abbas said doesn't deal, ultimately, with a Palestinian question rather a Palestinian state with secure borders and that is viable does. It does not mean there won't be Palestinians who reject that, but in order to get Palestinians to crack down on radicals or rejectionist if Israel doesn't have much in the way to offer, they can't expect the situation to get better for either side. Israel's actions has led to many people becoming terrorists. George Habash was born in Israel, but he was expelled as a boy for no reason, and then he became a Christian who was a militant. Attacks against Israel are not without the context of occupation and dispossession. You do try to justify the IDF's attacks and connect to the rockets, but you refuse to connect what's happening to the oppression of the Palestinians. Why not?

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Permalink Reply by Basil Keilani on February 3, 2009 at 5:17am

Dror, don't you read? I said you do not ever, ever, ever concede that Israel has done anything wrong.
Why is that? The Israeli Right and Arab right both thrive on violence.

You are putting words in my mouth, because you have nothing better to do than to ever admit that your side has made mistakes. I didn't say violence will get me a state. Israel has an enviable record as occupier? I am sure the Irish didn't feel that way under the boot of the British.

I am still waiting to see what mistakes you admit Israel has made. I haven't seen you concede to anything or admit to anything. All I can read is you pointing to Arab violence, and you never use the word West Bank you only use the words Judea and Samaria. That means you do not care for a Palestinian state, really. You seem to want to hold on to as many settlements as possible and give very little to the Palestinians, and if you had your way based on using those words and not using the West Bank want to hold on to verything.

If you don't know how the Palestinians are oppressed by Israel, then go read about it, buddy.

As far as Sharon, he went to the temple not as a regular Israeli citizen going there, but he wanted to provoke a confrontation. He was not religious at all. He went there for political reasons. He knew the environment was tense on both sides, that the time was ripe for conflict, so he want there with all those troops, and predictably things went to hell. You said that I admit that I admit Arab violence. Of course, there is Arab violence, there is an Israeli occupation. Yes, the right thrives on violence in Israel and engages in it. The fact that you are not admitting that Israel has engaged in volence and do not call the West Bank the West Bank ever and only point to one side's violence makes me wonder what your idea of peace would look like, what your views are on when it comes to settlements. Would you like to keep all of the West Bank? Would you want most of the settlements dismantled? Yes or no.

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Permalink Reply by Neri Bar-On on February 3, 2009 at 9:02am

Dror,

can you see, that the Palestinians, millions of them live in occupation conditions for years?

can you see that even there are terrorists, they are thousands at most?

can you see that even there Palestinians (one of the millions in WB and GAZA) is not a terrorists he is treated like one by you and by Israel Arm forces?

can you see how arrogant and aggressive your comments and how you have no recognition of the perspective of the conflict from Palestinian side?

you do not see you are missing the point by one-sided view of the situation.