Peace for Palestine bloc

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Comment by Tim Upham on March 30, 2013 at 8:48pm

What needs to be done is shore up the peace movement in Gaza.  Gaza is given such a bad name, because of Hamas.  Combatants for Peace is back in operation again in Gaza.  Especially, Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish, who has been on speaking engagements in the United States to promote his book "I Shall Not Hate."  He also was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.  There are many sources to link up with, because it is trying to give them the notoriety, which surpasses Hamas.

Comment by Hagay on March 16, 2010 at 11:56am

in 16 april will be the MEDITATION FOR PEACE. this event is what we are waiting for 62 years. i make new group here with the name The Isralestinian Gandhis.

Brothers and sisters, if you want be part of this unique event come to this group and there is the invitation in english and hebrew with all the the information that you need.

ITS FREE and you all can be part in this event!

LOVE AND PEACE
Hagay

Comment by Yigal D. Kahana on March 12, 2010 at 9:07pm

"Selling to anyone who is not a Palestinian is illegal."

That is a cop out. You have no problem criticizing what you feel to be illegal Israeli laws! This Palestinian law itself violates fundamental human rights of the owner, and constitutes blatant religious discrimination against the potential buyer.

"...a Jew buying land there would be expected to be doing for expanding Jewish supremacy."

That sure as heck is another generalization.

You say religious tolerance will be accepted, and say that Palestinian Jews could buy land there in your scheme, but even that would require changing the law we're talking about.

And I repeat, the viability of a society will depend far less on its square mileage, than on its good governance practices building strong group feeling and prosperity within whatever area it has.

Comment by Basil Keilani on March 12, 2010 at 8:47pm

Your state of Israel is an occupying force. Anyway you slice it. Selling to anyone who is not a Palestinian is illegal. A Jew can automatically become an Israeli and a Jew buying land there would be expected to be doing for expanding Jewish supremacy. It is Jewish supremacy, lording over the Palestinians. Israelis should not live in the West Bank without the approval of the PA or until an agreement has been signed. It's occupied land. Israelis have their allegiance to Israel not to the PA. I disagree that square mileage is irrelevant. South Africa argued that with trying to create homelands of small size for blacks. If mileage doesn't matter, give back Haifa, Safad and Ashkelon and the West Bank and live on the rest. It does matter. Maybe to you it doesn't because your side gains with the disposssion. The loss is not something many in Israel lose sleep over. Let's face it. It's a generalization. It's the reality of occupation and oppression. Under Barak's proposal in 2000, settlements were to be kept in a way that would have bisected much of the West Bank making freedom of movement hard. Forgive me, if I sound pissed off, but the suffering of the Palestinians disturbs me. I do believe in religious freedom in both Israel and Palestine but that won't happen completely. Jewish Orthodox want influence in Israel over certain areas. Religious tolerance will be accepted. I have no issue with Jews remaining in Palestine as citizens or annexed to Israel in a proper exchange of land from the 1948 and some areas not annexed could have Jews. I prefer, however, no one non-Palestinian buy land even other Arabs but a Palestinian Jew could, not an Israeli. You would have to have been granted the nationality somehow. Palestinians feel like they've been raped over and over. They can live with Jews. Talking about Jews in the West Bank entails talking about Israelis. They are Israeli citizens. It doesn't mean all Israelis are settler. It's not a generalization to say Jews in the West Bank have citizenship. It's a fact. A Jewish non-Israeli editor for a Palestinian paper was kicked out. Had he applied for citizenship he wouldn't have been deported. The people have suffered.

Comment by Yigal D. Kahana on March 12, 2010 at 6:34pm

Hi Basil,

Long time. With all due respect, now you are generalizing. (For example, "these are not just Jews. They are Israelis...). As if all Israelis, or all settlers are the same.

You say 'those buildings and houses represent intolerance in a certain way,... "
If you are that sensitive to intolerance, then the PA law making it a death penalty crime to sell your own land to a Jew or an Israeli must really offend your sensibilities!

And what if you were to learn that there never had been any houses in that particular spot, and nobody was dispossed from it? Or it was bought by Israelis or whoever fair and square? Would that change your analysis?

Moving forward, the viability of a society won't depend on square mileage. It will depend on good governance and strong group feeling. Freedom of religion will facilitate that. An absence of freedom of religion will lead to a non-viable state in Palestine, on no matter on what acreage.

Comment by Basil Keilani on March 12, 2010 at 5:56pm

We are talking about peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Palestinians have no state. They are occupied. When Americans revolted against Britain and the Irish against the British, it was under being oppressed by outsiders. The Palestinians were on the land, they didn't come to the Israelis. Israelis keep coming and taking land. As far as a land devoid of Jews, these are not just Jews. They are Israelis. They are not friendly Jews who had kind sentiments and came to live with Palestinians, but, rather, to dispossess them much as the Scottish were planted in Ireland to dispossess the Catholics. I am sure plenty of Irish Catholics were intolerant, but they weren't the occupiers of land they were born in or the villages they were in. I am all for Jews living with Arabs and maybe discussing some settlers staying in the West Bank and becoming Palestinian and learning Arabic in school. That's fine. But, think of the many Palestinians who lost their land and possessions for all those wonderful homes to go up. Those buildings and houses represent intolerance in a certain way, but since it's Arabs having it done by Jews it's okay somehow. But done elsewhere in the world it isn't. It's as if Israel is stuck in the 1800s when clearing natives was normal and no one of the other Westerners would bat any eye. Who knows if my father's land will be there tomorrow. Where will we go, as Mahmoud Darwish, said "After the last sky"?
Yes, to co-existence.

Comment by Yigal D. Kahana on March 12, 2010 at 5:36pm

Dear Mahmoud,

Maybe peace can be reached by ceasing to generalize, by implementing freedom of religion and ending religious discrimination, and by ceasing to insist that Palestine be devoid of Jews, and by accepting Jews in neighborhoods that are already predominantly Jewish, like Ramat Shlomo.

Comment by Tanya Kasim on March 12, 2010 at 11:43am

That's cool that Peace for Palestine is a work in progress. Both groups need to network for sure.

Comment by Eyal Raviv on September 18, 2009 at 7:58am

This group is promoted in our recommendations.

Comment by Basil Keilani on March 30, 2009 at 5:09pm

Palestinians are constanly being attacked. They have been occupied for 43 years.
Their schools are bombed, theri mosques are bombed, their hospitals are bombed, their homes are demolished, they are ethnic cleansed. Your message ignores the war crimes committed against Palestinians and all the suffering Palestinians go through. Granted, there is terrorism from Hamas and Al Aqsa brigades, but Article 49 of the Geneva Covention is violated non-stop and occupying another people is forbidden by international law. I don't get your comment about taking in Palestinians? Do you mean the refugees? They may end up taking some of them in the future, but they did not deprive Palestinians from their places of birth.
Also, Syria has not kicked out Jews. Syria has not persecuted Jews and is not responsible for what Israel has done to Palestinians and nor are the Lebanese.

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