Online Peace Talks - November 13

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Online Peace Talks - November 13

Time: November 13, 2011 from 8pm to 9:30pm
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Organized By: Waleed and Eyal
Latest Activity: Nov 13, 2011

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Event Description is proud to invite you to our 38th Online Peace Talks - hosted by Waleed and Eyal. Join us Sunday and let’s discuss the current events and issues together. We always appreciate your contributions to make a platform for cross-border dialogue. 

Online Peace Talks (OPT) aim to establish an open space to talk mutually about peace, possibilities and the future in a warm environment.

Dialogue is an important mean for conflict resolution, and this is exactly what we aim at. Dialogue will help us find common ground and exchange honestly about what we really feel. In the OPT, you raise the subjects you want to discuss. 

Join us for the OPT Sunday, November 13, at 20.00 Jerusalem time in the chat room at

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Comment by John deCoville on November 13, 2011 at 10:55pm

I invite a lively discussion in response to Irshad Manji's book:  The Trouble with Islam Today.  I believe that as an American Citizen -- raised as Calvinist Fanatic (One of the original Christian Jihadists that Muslim reform is too important to leave to the Muslims.

Gandhi said that India had to be Worthy of self-rule before politely inviting the British out.  The Gaza and the West Bank will not stop being colonized until Palestine gains the moral superiority that the (Indian) Hind-Swaraj movement gained utterly after the Salt March of 1930.


Let's get to work because there are a lot of moral and physical-safety boundaries to be crossed before the Palestian Liberation movement can gain ANY traction.


Ameen!  John (actually Jehan)

Comment by John deCoville on November 13, 2011 at 10:47pm

I enjoyed listening to Irshad Manji and her call for Fundamental Reform of Islamic Society:


The Trouble with Islam Today

The Trouble with Islam Today is... Muslims.

This book is an open letter from me, a Muslim voice of change, to concerned citizens worldwide -- Muslim and not. It's about why my faith community needs to come to terms with the diversity of ideas, beliefs and people in our universe, and why non-Muslims have a pivotal role in helping us get there.

The themes I'm exploring with the utmost honesty include:

  • the inferior treatment of women by Muslims;
  • the Jew-bashing in which so many Muslims persistently engage; and
  • the continuing scourge of slavery in countries ruled by Islamist regimes.

I appreciate that every faith has its share of literalists. Christians have their fundamentalists. Jews have the ultra-Orthodox. For God's sake, even Buddhists have absolutists.

But what this book hammers home is that only in Islam today is literalism mainstream. Which means that when abuse happens under the banner of Islam, most Muslims have no clue how to dissent, debate, or reform ourselves.

The Trouble with Islam Today shatters our silence. It shows Muslims how we can re-discover Islam's lost tradition of independent thinking -- known as "ijtihad" -- and re-discover it precisely to update Islamic practices for the 21st century. The opportunity to update is especially available to Muslims in the West, because it's there that we enjoy precious freedoms to think, express, challenge and be challenged without fear of state reprisal. In that sense, the Muslim reformation begins in the West.

It doesn't, however, end there. Not by a long shot. People throughout the Islamic world need to know of their God-given right to think for themselves. So The Trouble with Islam Today outlines a global campaign to promote pluralistic and progressive approaches to Islam. I call this non-military campaign "Operation Ijtihad." In turn, the West's support of this campaign will fortify national security, making Operation Ijtihad a priority for all of us who wish to live fatwa-free lives.

That's the book. The question now becomes: What possessed me to write it? Once I tell you a little about me, I think you'll see where my own passion comes from.

Why I'm struggling

As refugees from Idi Amin's Uganda, my family and I settled just outside of Vancouver in 1972. I grew up attending two types of schools: the secular public school of most North American kids and then, for several hours at a stretch every Saturday, the Islamic religious school ( madressa).

I couldn't quite reconcile the open and tolerant world of my public school with the rigid and bigoted world inside my madressa. But I had enough faith to ask questions -- plenty of them.

My first question for my madressa teacher was, "Why can't girls lead prayer?" I graduated to asking more nuanced questions, such as, "If the Quran came to Prophet Muhammad as a message of compassion, why did he command his army to banish an entire Jewish tribe?"

You can imagine that such questions irritated the hell out of my madressa teacher, who routinely put down women and trashed the Jews. He and I reached the ultimate impasse over yet another question: "Where," I asked, "is the evidence of the 'Jewish conspiracy' against Islam? You love to talk about it, but what's the proof?" That question, posed at the age of 14, got me booted out of the madressa. Permanently.

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