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1. Seek for a way to keep the posts focused on the issues and not insulting a person's dignity by name calling eg use of derogatory words like naive.
I am saddened you have responded in the way you have about me personally.
This is has been a bit of a pattern in your responses which is disappointing.
Personal name calling or put-downs neither aids in a dialogue nor follows the spirit of mepeace guidelines.
2. Do not trivialize or dismiss other people's experiences or their views. Engage with them respectfully.
3. Do not belittle or post generalizations about groups. Seriously respect them.
If you re-read the previous posts on this topic I would hope you can see that the reason I posted my comment on the Irish Holocaust was because you had asked Basil if it was the same as the Great Irish Famine. I too was curious so I researched your question and posted my findings to save Basil time. During my search I also found a link that mentioned other groups killed in the Nazi concentration camps. I thought it was important to remember the Roma people in particular who were also subjected to genocide.
I posted this supplementary section under the title European Shoah. This was a term which you found offensive. Let me be clear there was no malice in my choice of the term European Shoah. I merely preceded the term Shoah with the word European so as to remind us where the Shoah took place - in Europe.
This is critical as later Western nations were quite sympathetic to the creation of a Jewish state in this region given immense remorse from the Shoah.
The problem is it meant Palestinian Arabs were meant to bear the burden of the sins of Europe by creating a Jewish State in the Arab world which had not had a Jewish state for over two thousand years.
How was such an act fair to Palestinian Arabs? Yes it is important to acknowledge the indigenous Jewish population of the region. But this does not give one people a right to undermine the sovereignty of another people.
2. Avoid demonsing a people based on the acts of an individual
You later talk about Haj Amin al-Husseini and try and use him as a way to connect Palestinian Arabs to the European Shoah.
I will not defend Haj Amin al-Husseni and I am well aware of the critique of Husseini
from those who wish to demonise a people based on one individual..
Still the fact remains the Shoah of European Jews took place in Europe as a consequence of Europeans not Arabs.
3. Distinguishing the total number of deaths in WWII and the number killed in Nazi concentration camps
Paul, later Basil talks about the total number of people lost in the whole of World War II and gives a figure of 60 million. This is to be distinguished from what I had been talking about. Please reread the post I was focused on the deaths due to the Nazi concentration system. I do not know why you would then make the leap to conflate the figures I listed as being anything greater than what they were. If you knew me or have read my work you will know quite well I am fully aware that the total number of deaths due to World War II is well over 50 million.
4. The expulsions and emigration of Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews The expulsions and emigration of Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews that occurred post 1948-1950s needs to be seen in light of the war of 1948, and the collapse of the idea of a unitary Palestinian state and the prevention of Palestinian Arabs from returning to their homes following Israel's efforts to block the right of return. It was this event (in conjunction with false flag operations) that triggered Arab Jews to be expelled or forced to migrate because a rise in Anti-Semitism as a consequence of Israel's actions.
5. Treating each other as peers rather than as naive, thoughtless individuals
My hope is that on mepeace we can look at each others as peers. Focus on the issues and avoid resorting to name calling or put-downs if we do not understand or do not agree with another member's views.