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In Photos: Family Watches Israeli Forces Take Down Home

By Khaleel Reash

14 Januaury, 2011
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Members of the Younis family watch while their home is demolished by the Israeli bulldozers in the West Bank village of Azzun Atma near Qalqiliya, January 11, 2011.

Owner Mu’in Amin Younis, told Ma'an that he began building the home in 2003, on lands owned by his family. He had not yet completed the 130 meter structure when it was demolished.

"They said I built it without a license, but it is my own land," he said.

The village where the Younis family lives is stranded between the Green Line, Israel's separation barrier and two settlements. It is only partially under Palestinian control. Areas of the village near the barrier and settlements come under Israeli civil and military jurisdiction, known as Area C.

Because Younis owns land in Area C, he must apply to Israel for a permit to construct a home. Rights organizations and UN bodies have recognized that it is almost impossible to obtain such a permit.

 

http://www.countercurrents.org/reash140111.htm

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How are your rights diminished , whether civil or religious, by being a minority in Singapore? It is a knocking down a straw man with a bulldozer argument that you present.
"For a "national home for the Jewish people" is not equivalent to making Palestine into a Jewish State"

The term "Jewish state" is used in resolution 181 which Arabs  try to use as the basis to an Arab state just like in 242 it says "from the lands occupied during the Six Day War in exchange for recognition and secure borders " (occupied here is referring to Jordanian and Egyptian land not Palestinian) - this mean through negotiation to  secure borders not to the previous ones(1967).....

(occupied here is referring to Jordanian and Egyptian land not Palestinian)

 

++++ Sorry, but it means also palestinian land.

 

 

- this mean through negotiation to  secure borders not to the previous ones(1967).....

 

++++ It means really pre 1967 borders. If you would kindly really that res. 242 from beginning to the end, there is also mentioned one tiny detail ( from international law ), which makes your claim no go.

And here it is :

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war.

"++++ Sorry, but it means also palestinian land." - there was no such thing at the time there was only Jordan and Egypt on the map....

 

"++++ It means really pre 1967 borders. If you would kindly really that res. 242 from beginning to the end, there is also mentioned one tiny detail ( from international law ), which makes your claim no go." - If it meant 67 it would have said it it says "(withdraw) ...from the lands occupied during the Six Day War in exchange for recognition and secure borders " -

 

 



++++ Sorry, but it means also palestinian land.

 

Please refer to the passage where the word "Palestine or Palestinians" is mentioned.

++++ It means really pre 1967 borders. If you would kindly really that res. 242 from beginning to the end, there is also mentioned one tiny detail ( from international law ), which makes your claim no go.

And here it is :

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war.

 

It is very interesting what slant you are using , but there was no acquisition by Israel of any territory that has been sovereign by any state as Jordan acquired the land through a war of aggression and therefore your quote is not valid.  242 reiterates the cease fire wording of 1949 that the borders will be fixed through negotiations. Only the physical cease fire lines have changed between 1949 and 1967.

 Lets not invert history to a slant that is not in synch with the actual events, please.

 

Please refer to the passage where the word "Palestine or Palestinians" is mentioned.

 

++++ Please refer to the passage where is ANY country by name mentioned.



It is very interesting what slant you are using , but there was no acquisition by Israel of any territory that has been sovereign by any state as Jordan acquired the land through a war of aggression and therefore your quote is not valid.

 

++++ Do you think that UN dropped palestinian case somehow in 1948 ?

 

 

  242 reiterates the cease fire wording of 1949 that the borders will be fixed through negotiations.

 

++++ No, that those borders should finally be agreed. Which is still missing in west bank / Israel part.

 

Only the physical cease fire lines have changed between 1949 and 1967.

 

++++ Would you be kind and read those ceasefire agreements ? And what they say.


 Lets not invert history to a slant that is not in synch with the actual events, please.

 

++++ I really dont have to. And events and international law are quite different thing my friend.

there was no such thing at the time there was only Jordan and Egypt on the map....

 

++++ Where did palestinians disappear then ?

 

 If it meant 67 it would have said it it says "(withdraw) ...from the lands occupied during the Six Day War in exchange for recognition and secure borders " -

 

++++ Do you really think that they intended whole resolution, that in same resolution is mentioned that you cant take in war areas, and next sentence that you can keep those. What you think ?

 

 

Mika:

 

242 tals about the High Contracting parties- Jordan,Syria, Egypt and Israel. No Palestinian is ever mentioned as they were considered citizens of Jordan.Yes, the Arabs of that area were dropped as they were absorbed by Jordan and Egypt and had no interest in a country of their own.

 

It is up to the combatants to fix border and not the UN, UK, USA or anyone else. That is the essence of 242 evn if you fail to understand it. Read Walt Rostow (one of the framers of 242)

 

The 1949 Armistice lines were to be negotiated into a border as per the insistence of Jordan at that time and reiterated in the UN by them in 1952 and post.

 

There is no codified "International Law" thus you have Chechnya, Ingusetia, Falklands, Kyril Islands, Tibet and dozens of other territorial disputes. Not unlike what we have here.

 

BTW: The Palestinians appear in 1988 only and not in 1948 or 1967.

Basil

 

Invoking Nazi images does nothing for your argument other than inflame passions. The 1947 partition resolution died with the Arab rejection of it. Simple Law of Contracts and Israel's victory in 1967 just moved the line of demarcation further and was not an acquisition in war. "Palestine was not a High Contracting party in 1967 but rather Egypt and Jordan and Israel made peace with both and their border is demarcated. This IS DISPUTED TERRITORY and there is nothing preventing Israel from building there and applying its laws. So it does matter that Jordan was in possession in 1967.

 

As previously mentioned ,International Law does not apply as there is no sovereign in Judea and Samaria and no fixed borders (courtesy of the Arabs in 1949).The Arab majority in the UN and its supporters on ICJ cannot change that .

 

Stop the TERROR, stop the Qassams and Negotiate. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY.

 

PS stop with the demonizing and buzz words such as "occupation, "apartheid" "nazi comparisons" etc. That will not get you a state or PEACE.

 

 

Thanks Sandra for reminding us about the Freedom Theatre set up by Juliano Mer Khami and to the memory of his mother Arna who originally set it up in 1988 before it was destroyed in 2002.  Juliano and his mother exemplified the best that Israel can do, striving to see a better life for all people, rather than for an exclusivist view of the world that seeks to demonise the other and only seek benefit for one's self.

 

I am continually reminded of the great teacher Micah - who reminds us to do justice, show constant love and live humbly within this fragile planet of ours.  The example of Juliano and Arna was about doing justice, about giving dignity to those who have lost so much.

 

May we build a future, as mentioned in the documentary, where 11 year old children no longer wet themselves because of post traumatic stress; where Palestinians no longer see Israelis only as soldiers but can meet them as equals and as neighbours.

 

Thanks again Sandra.

 

P.S.

 

Can anyone confirm the situation in relation to Jenin.  Juliano mentioned it being cut off by electric fence.  Was he only referring to the separation barrier to the north of Jenin, or was he referring to the general situation of road blocks and checkpoints?

 

The American Peace Now settlement map offered no further clues:

http://peacenow.org/map.php

Basil.

It would take volumes to reply to all of these inaccuracies ,so suffice it to say that this is exactly why peace is still not at hand. Now you even have the audacity to bring in the Israeli Bedouin.

 

I just chuckle when someone points out that "rightful owners" canard as if this was somehow the gospel (according to the Palestinians) but in fact even though there is a right to bring these to the Supreme Court in Israel or even to the Hague , no one has done that. WHY? because all they have is those trusty rusted keys but no deeds from either the Ottoman era or the British Mandate days.

 

But woe be to any Jew that either buys the land for the umpteenth time or reclaims it with a deed and evicts people that refuse to pay rent. What nonsensical comparisons.

 

I do object to the nazi comparisons or even to nazi invocations. Was it not Husseini who was a nazi sympathizer?

 

BTW: Just like the Czechs of 1938 so did the Serbs get the short end of the stick just so that Muslims could be appeased. Yet you bring these up . I wonder why?

BASIL.

 

Lets just hope that not all Peacemakers are like you. If I were an Israeli and this is what I heard , I would not want to ever to consider giving up land and security and swallow the inaccuracies that you are mouthing . At least have some respect for history and accuracy of what you are stating.

 

It is not Jewish or any other history. Pure fiction.

 

PS. If your family has a deed they certainly can petition the high court in both the Israel pre 1967 and post 1967 territories. Have they done that?

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