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The French Imam Who Saved Jews

Started Oct 25, 2015 0 Replies

The Grand Mosque of Paris was built in 1926, to honor the 100,000 North African Muslims who fought and died for France during World War I.  The imam was Kaddour Benghabrit.French music hall…Continue

Can Israel/Palestine Become A Belgian-Style Federation?

Started this discussion. Last reply by David Graycat Jan 3, 2018. 2 Replies

The two-state solution is not moving forward, and is almost dead.  Many Palestinians have given up, and now realize that the West Bank will be annexed by Israel, and they will become Israeli citizens…Continue

Anatomy Of A Lost Generation

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tim Upham Aug 13, 2013. 5 Replies

When we view the concept of an Israeli-Palestinian peace, what comes into focus are its supporters.  A major supporter is American Jews.  But when looking closer at this segment of the population, it…Continue

The Palestinians Lack Vision On Creating A Nation-State

Started Jun 1, 2013 0 Replies

What it has consisted of since 1993, is to have the eventual goal to be the creation of a two-state solution.  Sounds great on paper, but when looking down deeper into that notion of a two-state…Continue


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My personal story:
I have spent a great deal of time in Israel, West Bank, and Gaza. I know both Hebrew and Arabic. I have been working on the concept of Israeli-Palestinian peace for decades. I see it as just dragging out for too long, and now something has to been done. It is like what Simon Peres said, peace with the Palestinians is urgent. Let us make it urgent.
Why I want peace:
Because with peace there can be both economic viability and political stability. Right now the Palestinian economy is so dependent on international aid, in fact Gaza has virtually no economy. The Palestinian economy can be built up with economic interaction with Israel. It can be that Israeli farmers are sending their produce to Gaza for overnight delivery to markets in Europe. But first there must be economic interaction between Gaza and Israel.
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Arabs Too Were Among The Righteous Gentiles

Posted on April 8, 2013 at 7:40am 18 Comments

The Yom HaShoah commemoration always focuses on the righteous gentiles, who risked arrest and imprisonment for hiding Jews during World War II.  Go through the Jerusalem Forest, and view the Righteous Among the Nations.  Here names are placed next to a tree of individuals, who lived in countries occupied by Nazi Germany and were allies of Nazi Germany, who went through great risks in hiding Jews from arrest and deportation.  People in Europe, but there are also people in North Africa.  Arabs…


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At 2:11am on January 28, 2013, Sinem Tezyapar said…

Thank you Tim for inviting me to this network.

At 1:23am on December 4, 2012, Farsijana Adeney-Risakotta said…

Dar-al-Islam seems applying strongly in the Middle East, not here in Indonesia due to our national constitution of Pancasila. Pancasila is our ideological foundation to embrace five principles of living in Indonesia. The first one is the Great Unity of Deity. The second principle is Humanity. The third is The Unity of Indonesia. The fourth is Consultation to reach consensus and representation. The fifth is Social justice to all Indonesians.

Due to the struggles of the separation movement and the emergence for solving the tsunami disaster,   Aceh got its own special status to apply the Islamic law but not the rest of Indonesia. We are still struggling to shape our new democratic process post reformation movement. Some areas, especially in regencies or distric leves have applied  local regulations to reflect the practice of Islamic law but the policies have gained lots of  nationwide protests. They do not work out, except only for the budgeting purposes as I can see.

Indonesia is not the source of origins as what the claims have made for Abrahamic religions which were borned in Middle East. All religions in Indonesia were alien which had to be contextualized into the local cultures. Competition to the control of trading brought out from traders who conquered and colonized, used the religions for dividing power, especially in the several transitional periodes like from Hinduism-Budhism to Islam to Catholicism to Protestanism. This historical richness of religious landscapes  inspired our founding father to conceive the principles of Pancasila as the ways Indonesians have to live in this freed world. Annouced the independence after the second war world along with the reality of ideological competition between communism and capitalism as well as the long period of colonial history, the creation of Pancasila for the new Indonesia was a genuine to image a country to live in harmony and peace for the world. At the time East Timor was not a part of Indonesia yet. It was given by the State after the crisis occured in Angkola which was a part of a colony of the Portuguese. The rise of communism in the area was scare to the USA. However, it stayed shortly for East Timor in a part of Indonesia because of many factors, one might be relating to the historical colonizer and religious identity. However, I think it might be relate to the practice of justice due to the centralizing sytems, not like in the USA which applies federalism.

So I think, Israeli nation state has to be existed in its original site. However, as you said, can Israeli and Palestine and the rest of Dar-al-Islam get out from their prejudies, stereotypes etc to recognise each other rights to live. For the areas I guess the model of reconciliation has to go deeply. I see you have thought about the solution, however, I think perhaps the economical choices have to be integreted into the peace process systematically. 

At 12:47am on December 3, 2012, Farsijana Adeney-Risakotta said…

Thanks for sharing your skepticism, while the dillema of the making decision had to be made. Hope it worked well especially to serve the goal of the peacebuilding in the area of conflict like in Israel and Palestine. The process in which the program was conducted to include both the representation of parties especially those on the level of elites to engage into a peaceful negogiation seems becoming very important to be explored. I wonder whether this effort was a part of the interests of the Israeli government. Salam.

At 11:07pm on December 1, 2012, Farsijana Adeney-Risakotta said…

Perhaps Seeds for Peace could design a special program for those in this context. I wonder whether you have thought before. Thanks for your inspiring answer. salam

At 12:59am on December 1, 2012, Farsijana Adeney-Risakotta said…

Dear Tim, I would have to look on the history of the area when a particular group to appear such as called extremists. Everything has its roots, including the rise of radicalism.

I visited Aceh to learn its own history which has helped me to understand as an Indonesian on how important to reflect pluralism from their point of view. Among the moslem in Aceh, the implementation of Islamic syariah eventually only accomodate the mayority views not the marginal sub-ethnic groups which have started to question the authority. 

The same case happens with the struggles among different groups in Papua where the majority is Christian in the eastern part of Indonesia. Learning from this case, I think the best thing to happen is to keep educating ourselves, our people, our government on the equal sharing to all citizens in the nation.

I know the impacts of  natural exploitation will affect to our country. It is political issues because in many cases the environment problems have involved globally many nations. The mining exploration in Papua is the example to mention due to the involvement of the biggest gold company in the world based in the State, Freeport. The economical factors which lead to the conflict in North Moluccas, where I did my research and worked during my youth, actually linked to the mining policies in the area and other developmental roots. Can we understand the middle east conflict from this perspective? I guess we can.

My big concern on how to explain the situation on conflict area like Palestine where the local people have left their country? I can see your points to explain the difficulties to develop the local economics out of a natural exploration. Thanks for your willingness to share your knowledge with me. Salam.

At 1:01am on November 30, 2012, Farsijana Adeney-Risakotta said…

Dear Tim, it is good to hear that you had been here, in Jakarta. But Jakarta is not Indonesia. We have thousands of islands which are rich in culture, religions and people. As a nation state, Indonesia is newest than that of USA. However, it is an ancient nation. By the way, Indonesia also does not have yet a diplomatic relation with Israel. At the presidency of Abdurrahman Wahid (Gus Dur) there was an effort to begin the diplomatic relation, but it gained lots of criticism. Your point is right. Perhaps you can develop more deep argument to support your assumption that Dar-al-Islam is a solution to the middle east conflict when all nations open to rebuild the formal diplomatic relation with Israeli government. 

Regarding to the discussion, I enjoyed reading your explanation on the direction taking by the youths after the program of Seeds of Peace. The impact of peace can transform the idea of militarism then? I never know before. It seems so contradictory. Now I can remember a friend who studied together me at ASSR in the Netherlands, her research was about the Israeli army and gender, however, she did not deal with the notion on peace within militarism. Taking my research in Indonesia, many conflicts which involve mass violence might relate with imaginary militarism. We never know how people get guns etc. What I feel is the common people tend to be blamed as inisiators of mass violence. So your experiences with Seeds for Peace which help transforming somebody life is a blessing story for me.

Do you have a special program for those who are extremists? Many things to explore more from your previous answer, but I have to stop here. Many thanks for your gracious answer too. Gladly you have worked with some Indonesian women in the State. Salam.

At 11:27pm on November 28, 2012, Farsijana Adeney-Risakotta said…

Dear Tim, I believe all the teenagers both the Israeli and Palestinian who were with your program, Seeds of peace are now young adults. I wonder whether they have transformed their life to involve with a peaceful effort throughout trading as we have discussed. I would like you to explore little bit on this development to which has effected in the peaceful process between Israelies and Palestinians. Terima kasih (this means thank you in Indonesian). Salaam.

At 11:20pm on November 27, 2012, Farsijana Adeney-Risakotta said…

Thanks Tim for taking your time to explain in detail on the efforts and difficulties to facilitate economic products of peace to link the Palestines and Israelis. You mentioned other factors beside economical aspects have involved in influencing to the peace process. We are not taking about the political aspects, but the polical mentality as you referred. I wonder to what extend this fact can be transformed by using the economical approaches to break down the conventional ways of solving the problem. I mean the two state solutions only can work when the two types of people in their nations can go passing their limitation by seeing a creative way with an entrepreneur eye to transform their stagnate claims. If you have any experiences to share, it will help all of us to think another way for filling in the content of the two states of the solution. Salaam.

At 11:05pm on November 26, 2012, Farsijana Adeney-Risakotta said…

Access for the people to the cash to build their own business needs to be followed with their capabilities to create their unique product that can be marketing. I hope this is going to be part of your important assistance to them. Would be thankful for me to learn from your case of service. To what extend you find difficulties to imply the idea for getting more people to be succeeded in their business. Otherwise loans can become a challenge for a peaceful trading among the local people with others.

At 12:12am on November 26, 2012, Farsijana Adeney-Risakotta said…

Dear Tim Upham, thanks for sharing about your dream to see an economical justice to be conducted among the Palestines..Hope you will be one of the inspirator for their economical achievement.. salaam from Yogyakarta, Indonesia.



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