Indian Residential School-Apology by PM Stephen Harper-Pt.1

Indian Residential School- Apology PM Stephen Harper - Pt. 2

National Chief Phil Fontaine - Response to Formal Apology

Remembering the Children - Indian Residential Schools

May this be a turning point for all Tribal People in the world, who still are suffering and living under humiliating circumstances, especially the Adivasi in India who even were deported far from their original surroundings and had to start a "new life" in total strange and different circumstances.

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Comment by Farida Magdalena Gillot on June 18, 2008 at 10:22am
Dear Mick,

I am very happy with your information. I have put above information only to show how long and how mixed up humanity as a whole is. I have at least seven races in me and many religions and esoteric backgrounds. If a Jew or a Palestine or an Arab, or whatever race is making a hell for each other, due to genes, What kind or right of existance would I have?

And with me so many other people with many nationalities and mixed religions.

If we have headache we all need the same kinds of painkillers. Everyone is in the need of the essential vitamimes and minarals to stay healthy.

I read some days ago about an article that due to something they found from outer space, human gene is extra terrestial.

If I see the natural beauty of this planet and the original tribes who are able to live in harmony with Nature for thousands of years and the so named civilised nations and religions take the right to make a hell for themselves and one another due to genes and background, than as human being I am ashamed to be human.
I would love to be able to create a world-society where all the cultural differences will be celebrated in stead of being a cause to make a living hell.

Perhaps we can start with taking people like Michael Tsarion more serious. When you see how long the history of humankind is than this last 2000 years are 'one day' in history and we all should be ashamed that our governments are actively contributing to sustainable confict in the Middle East.

As individuals we should strike and not 'obey' and be loyal to that what the media and the top of society is forcefully trying to make us believe. the only ones who have profit from this conflict are those who even hate their own kind. The Jews, responsible for the that what is artificial created and sustained, will never consider to live in Israel, but in other safe countries. For a holiday, or showing up for a charitable event perhaps.

It would be great if we will be able as humankind to adopt each other as being children of one Mother Earth and put all the money,energy, intelligence, emotions in safing her and all species with the same efford and intention as we are able to find reasons to make war for thousands of years and only are surviving from one war to the other.

We all are not able to know what real peace is meaning. If tomorrow we all should refuse to answer the call for war, our whole economy and world empire would collaps and that is for our world leaders a greater disaster than a Hiroshima bomb or a 9/11. They are talking about peace and warning for global warming, but they do not give a damn about all of us.

How much pollution are these wars giving and how much so named money is involved.

We all need to open our eyes and admit who our real enemy is. And that is not your neighbor Palestine or Jew. History of genes is only very interesting for the scientists and those who make a hobby out of it or can use it to help humanity with health etc. But should never be a reason to justify the lack of humanity.
Comment by Mick on June 17, 2008 at 5:21am
The articles, and associated ones, are interesting theories with no real evidential basis, Farida, but they are just that, much of it seriously dated in light of more recent genetic research: Judy Siegel. "Genetic evidence links Jews to their ancient tribe." Jerusalem Post (November 20, 2001). Excerpts:

"Despite being separated for over 1,000 years, Sephardi Jews of North African origin are genetically indistinguishable from their brethren from Iraq, according to The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. They also proved that Sephardi Jews are very close genetically to the Jews of Kurdistan, and only slight differences exist between these two groups and Ashkenazi Jews from Europe. These conclusions are reached in an article published recently in the American Journal of Human Genetics and written by Prof. Ariella Oppenheim of the Hebrew University (HU) and Hadassah-University Hospital in Ein Kerem. Others involved are German doctoral student Almut Nebel, Dr. Marina Faerman of HU, Dr. Dvora Filon of Hadassah-University Hospital, and other colleagues from Germany and India. The researchers conducted blood tests of Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Kurdish Jews and examined their Y chromosomes, which are carried only by males. They then compared them with those of various Arab groups - Palestinians, Beduins, Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese - as well as to non-Arab populations from Transcaucasia - Turks, Armenians and Moslem Kurds. The study is based on 526 Y chromosomes typed by the Israeli team and additional data on 1,321 individuals from 12 populations... Surprisingly, the study shows a closer genetic affinity by Jews to the non-Jewish, non-Arab populations in the northern part of the Middle East than to Arabs."

The close genetic ties of Jews to Kurds is fascinating and should be further researched, but there is no denying the ethnic, cultural, linguistic ties of Jews to ancient Israel. Nor, it seems, does anybody dispute the direct descendency of Sephardi Jews. Certainly the idea that Ashkenazi Jews descended from the tiny nation of Khazars which disappeared almost 1,000 years ago, is attractive to the group trying to deny Jewish links to the area, even if it were true (but clearly supported by no real evidence at all), it would simply mean that in converting, the Khazars joined both the tribe and the birthright, much as adopted children do.

However, the whole thrust of checking out people's origins opens a can of worms, as "Palestinians" can stand little scrutiny in that department. If we are truly about peace, then it's more important to find a resolution, but if you want to get into tracing origins, I'm more than happy. Tracing the historical origins of Europe's Jews through Spain, and loads of new genetic research, as above, makes it as conclusive, as mixed gene pools over millenia can be. Then we could talk about Palestinian origins and genetics (also covered in these researches). Or we could talk about peace, which would be far more productive.
Comment by Corey Gil-Shuster on June 16, 2008 at 3:34pm
There has been violence in the land since there have been people in the land. This is not unique. Each side takes the violence that is perpetrated against them and makes that part of its narrative. Neither side’s narrative includes feeling guilty for what they have done to the other side or how each has contributed to the conflict. If you want a simple history of the land from both the mainstream Israeli and Palestinian perspectives, check out the dual narrative history project written by an Israeli and Palestinian team of educators:

For the text book, check out Second Test Booklet (English)
Comment by Farida Magdalena Gillot on June 16, 2008 at 9:35am
I am afraid that and the Jewish people and the Palastinian people, plus the whole world are the victims of a much more complex plot that started 1000 years beforethe establishment of the Modern State of Israel. But in a part of it below we can see how active this still is and how the shadow government of our worldleaders today are actively linked with this.
Part I

"Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog,
the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and
prophesy against him." Ezekiel 38:2
Part II

"Judah...hath married the daughter of a strange god. The
Lord will cut off the man that doeth this." Malachi 2:11, 12

This is what I am pointing at and what is more actual now:

..............While Germany was attempting to end the war in a more-than-equitable manner, German Zionists, representing Zionists from Eastern Europe, approached the British War Cabinet and offered them an alternative to merely pretending that a war had never happened.

At this point, it would be well to define "Zionist". Those were (and are) Jews whose dominant purpose was the establishment of a "Jewish Homeland", a proposition that the majority of Jews at that time did not endorse. Webster's Collegiate Dictionary defines "Zionism" as "an international movement orig. for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel."

At the time that the United Nations decreed Israel to be a legitimate state, May 14, 1948, the most conservative of Jewish sects, the Hasidim, strongly opposed the establishment of a secular state of Israel, claiming that it was wrong to do so apart from Messiah's coming.

The offer made the British at the time of Germany's near total victory, consisted of a proposal to bring the United States into the war on Britain's side and thus insure an Allied victory. This was contingent on the British, after the defeat of Germany, agreeing to secure a large section of Palestine as a Jewish homeland -- keeping in mind that this cabal was being created by those who had no connected ancestry, whatever, to the Semitic tribes of ancient Israel, and therefore no ancestral right to fabricate even a remote claim to the region.

Freedman makes the observation that England had no more right to promise Palestine to the Jews than "the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland" -- but that is precisely what they did. This promise resulted in the drafting of a small historical document called The Balfour Declaration. The following is the text, in its entirety, of this short and concise historical document:

Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour
Comment by Mick on June 16, 2008 at 6:34am
Marwa, there were massacres of Jews that went as far back as the early 19th century. In the 20th century they began in 1920 with the "Nebi Musa riots", and the most horrific was the ethnic cleansing of the ancient Jewish population of Hebron in 1929. There are many sources, here is one with photos. This doesn't make what you say wrong. Jews and Arabs lived peacefully in Hebron for centuries until the day Arabs ran through the streets with swords slaughtering Jews. A few, on the other hand, provided refuge for their Jewish neighbours, and risked their lives, some of those even standing in their doorway with their own sword to protect their Jewish friends. But nevertheless, from that day until 1970, there wasn't a single Jew in Hebron. The only place where Jews and Arabs lived in total harmony until 1948 (to the best of my knowledge) was in Haifa, where many Arabs actually spoke Yiddish and knew the customs of their neighbours, as did their Jewish neighbours know theirs. It is probably why so many Haifa Arabs chose to remain in 1948. Things are always far more complex than the simplistic positions people adopt, which is why history is so important. It can show where people are wrong, or at the very least explain why things are the way they are.
Comment by Corey Gil-Shuster on June 16, 2008 at 12:59am
I was actually on Parliament Hill in Ottawa hearing the apology live. It was very moving. As the Prime Minister was reading the apology, I had a similar thought to Adam- would my country (Israel) ever make a formal apology to the Palestinians?

The answer is very complicated and problematic because Israelis and Jews do not view Israel or Zionism or Jews as 100% responsible for 1948, 1967, 2000 or even something that happens today. In fact, just like the emotional Palestinian reaction of throwing blame only at the Israelis, most Israelis would blame the Arabs 100% for everything that has happened. It is amazing how each side sees itself as “only reacting” to the other side. But that is the nature of conflict- we convince ourselves that it is the other side’s fault and therefore the other side must find the solutions because only I am the victim.

After having met Palestinians in Canada and hearing their stories (ironically, something I never was able to do living in Israel) I understand how Palestinians view the past 100 years as our fault. I don’t agree with their view of history or how they view what is happening or why it is happening but I recognize that there cannot be conflict unless both sides actively contribute to it and both sides have contributed greatly to this conflict.

I recognize how important an apology can be. Once an agreement is in place and violence has ended, I personally would be happy with my government giving a formal apology towards the Palestinian people- I believe in order to move forward, we must. In return I would expect a formal apology from the Palestinian government on behalf of the Palestinian people for the crimes Palestinians committed against us (100 years of attacks and bloodshed, not accepting Jewish self-determination in the first place, etc.).
Comment by Farida Magdalena Gillot on June 12, 2008 at 6:54pm
Who knows what will happen. If we pray that our Prime Creator, whatever name we give him/her, will open their hearts, or give a heart to those who are on that point disabled.

The Israeli government is just a marionet of the world's shadow government, just like any other government. So if we have the courage to turn within ourselves the switch from hatred to love(unconditional love) and refuse to react on injustice as they are expecting we will do, there will come a change. We all need to become aware that the Jews as well as the Palestinians are victims of Zionism ( those founders are mostly not living in Isreal, but safe and luxe in oter countries)
This weird idea was carefully planned by the Illuminati long before the WW I & II.

When you watch the worldscene of desicionmakers you'll see that those who initiate wars and peace, who are behind the so named big organisations of peacemovements and charities are all of the same sick wealthy clubs.

Many wise men are saying that we ourselves have to be the change and I think that they are totally right. When we, understandably start to hate, we only feed the war-industry/economy.

Energetically these creeps are also living on blood/sweat/tears. So if we start to cut that flow of, energy at least on that level they will not get anything from 'the mass' any longer. More and more information is available about the origin of humankind and we are more than only mortal beings, we are eternal beings with infinite potence. Only again the same club forcefully kept the information far from us and misused mankind in all kinds of ways for their own purpose.

I am sure that a lot of Israelis would be very happy if their government would be so wise to follow the example of Canada. This would result in forgiveness, sustainable peace and safety. Who would not be longing, wishing and praying for this.

I think that the tax payers prefer to see their money spended on bread than bullets for their so named ennemies, who are as much victims as they are, even worse as everyone knows.

I think the Israelis will also be more respected worldwide, when their government would apologize the Palastinians. Who knows, if should we all ask as worldcitizens to our worldleaders and their shadow government to end this injustice and not only for Palestine but really for all the suppressed populations and tribes of the world? On the Internet we are with many and if a virus can become a plague in a short time, why not our request for real sustainable peace, starting with official apologizing from their side towards all victims of war, social injustice, hunger and starvation. After all, only a handfull of people are chronically destroying the lives of millions.
Love and Light,

Comment by adam mozolange on June 12, 2008 at 5:27pm
does the israeli government and people have the same courage to apologise for upprooting the palestinians and damagine their villages (480 palestinian villages were totally devastataed) and driving them out of their homelnd to live as refugees for sixty years up to now?????? I dont believe the Israilis would do. At least the Canadians stopped killing the Indians but Israel still killing the palestinians .... and more they ask the Palestinians to forget and delete the Nakba from their collective dictionary (as Levni asked them two weeks ago)
all peace


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