Arab but not Arab,they are worst than Jewish ,because Palestinian tongue is Arab ,many considered Arab are near to us and support us,we are share Arab many things language ,culture ,religion,.... but actually they are Arab but not Arab ,and deal with us worst than Israel , they called them self our brothers ,but truly they our enemy .Egypt and other Arab countries open there airports for west people with out visa ,even prevent us to get visa,and many deportation us and know we have not state to return to it ,where we go ,and worst Egypt built iron wall to put it under border between Gaza and Egypt after share Israel to siege Gaza. is those are Arab ,20,000 Palestinian stay for long time in borders between Iraq and Syria,Jordan ,they receive millions of Iraqi refugee ,but when is palestinian they say no place is those Arab.not are not

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Comment by Neri Bar-On on December 24, 2009 at 1:17am
Dear Ahmed,

there are many Partners and many non-Partners we need to find a way to read between the lines of one-sidedness and find the Partners for creating the future and avoid the non-Partners which say that there are no Partners.

I read you for long time (here and in ipeace) I understand what you say, and respect it.

I know many Israelis and Palestinians who are seeing the necessity to think from the future and work for change as the current situation must end, the Palestinians need an independent state to serve their society the Zionists will not disappear back to Europe.

The palestinians and Israeli citizens need a governance system that will enable equality and sustainability of personal security and cultural freedom. for having it we need to work together as the situation of conflict enable the extremists between us (who claim no-partner ) to gain power and create condition that no one can vision option for partnership.
Comment by Ahmed Ata on December 23, 2009 at 11:38pm
i agree with you Neri Bar-On but there is no partners
Comment by Corey Gil-Shuster on December 23, 2009 at 7:13pm
I understand and feel greatly for Palestinian suffering and how they have been used and abused by all involved (Arabs and Jews). My comment is how information is presented- we don't need to create more angels and devils, black and white thinking. We need ideas that are inclusive of all instead of exclusive to one group or another.

If you want me to erase it because you think it is offensive, I will.
Comment by Neri Bar-On on December 23, 2009 at 7:05pm
Delete Comment Corey,

I think Ahmed describe the split between the Arab nations where the Palestinians who are Arabs were left out due to other interests of other Arabs.

This is painful as much of it come from the wester colonization effort of the early 20th century where the Zionists were be able to get a foot in Israel (an effort started during the Ottoman (non Arab) empire)

The Arab Nation is split down and fragmented and if it was united I am not sure the Israel state could have emerged; but this inner split is confuse and weak down the ability of the Palestinians as Arabs to gain power and abounded them while the Zionists got support from the Jewish people and were able to create the organization of a state the Palestinians fell down to this inner Arab confusion.

Now when we have Israeli state and we have many Arab states we can hope that we will find a new trans-national ideas for us to work our human needs as Arabs and Jews. this is where there is an option for Egyptian, Lebanese, Palestinian and Israeli to work not as "Arab", "Jew", "Druze", "Cristian", "Muslim" but as humans who see the human system that is sustainable and respect all.
Comment by Corey Gil-Shuster on December 23, 2009 at 6:14pm
"Arabs are worse than Jews" is that meant to be a compliment?


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